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请大家谈谈D800手柄都用的什么牌子？原厂的好但也太贵了。副厂品色手柄如何？
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原厂贵。副厂不好。推荐买个电池我看划算。
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买了个品色的，感觉还是不到位，最后还是入了原厂
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除了竖拍和连拍 真没必要。。
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cs1020 发表于
没碰上罢了。我买过5d3和d800的品色手柄，都有严重质量问题。接触不良总自动断电，摇杆质量门都碰上了，售后也不给换。这种垃圾产品真...我也没碰上，你点子低
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竖拍倒是问题不大，主要是本人手大，加了手柄后，小拇指可以吃上劲了。本人用过品色的遇到过一些问题，最终还是上了原厂。
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俺的D700配美科的手柄用了快3年，一直很好
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之前买了品色，装上后sd卡读写灯老闪，遂退了。之后半年都没有打手柄的主意
之后因为接到一单准商业，棚拍的那种，竖排需求很多。权衡再三还是买了原厂，手感真心强多了，而且心里也踏实了。
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正考虑品色，看完犹豫
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副厂手柄挺好，一直挂着，没什么问题。
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洋溢凡 发表于
２００多块的国产，Ｄ９０的时候就买过，后来Ｄ７００了，还用国产，挺好
零头价，就不要太计较了！当年200多买的无品牌国产5d手柄，用了3年觉得还挺好。给d800买过一个品色手柄，出了无数问题卖家也不给退换，一气之下扔了，从淘宝找了最便宜的国产货200多，用了1年多，底部的橡胶有点要烂的迹象，其他都挺好。这个价格也没什么要求了。
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２００多块的国产，Ｄ９０的时候就买过，后来Ｄ７００了，还用国产，挺好
零头价，就不要太计较了！
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g2gdeen 发表于
品色的用了一年多，一点问题也没有，很满意，原厂太贵了没碰上罢了。我买过5d3和d800的品色手柄，都有严重质量问题。接触不良总自动断电，摇杆质量门都碰上了，售后也不给换。这种垃圾产品真是丢国货的脸。
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千万别买品色这种垃圾产品，看到有这种垃圾产品的帖子我都要进来骂。没品牌的手柄我买过用了几年都不会有质量问题，但品色我买了两个全部严重质量问题，而且根本没所谓的保修。
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不竖拍真的没必要.买了副厂用想连拍多一张都不胜任,细看说明书,原来是定要:1.5裁幅.1.2都不行.又定要EN-EL18或5号电池.
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原厂水货半年前购入，2000，快门3w无问题，副厂的能会给你用铝合金吗？
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品色的用了一年多，一点问题也没有，很满意，原厂太贵了
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山城飞扬 发表于
我有点想入原装手柄，但怕上手柄后太重~因为D800 2470已经不轻了。...不够强壮^_^
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以前用的机器都是原厂手柄，上D800后，原厂太贵，想尝试一下副厂的，综合对比后买的爱图仕铝合金版（还有塑料版），使用下来后说点感受，爱图仕铝合金版应该是副厂比较贵的了，原厂1/4的价格，做工不错，实际使用中唯一觉得是问题的是快门释放钮和AF-On的行程节奏与原厂有区别，导致快门释放的节点与机身不一致，比较不爽，特别是拍摄运动画面的时候。
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看来还是得买原厂的。
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我买的斯丹德手柄，用了几次就快门失灵，厂家给换了一个，快门手感滞涩，国货真是哀其不幸，怒其不争！
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这个我觉得没必要原厂了 看财力吧
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爱图仕镁铝合金版，拿在手上冰凉，网上也有测评，一切功能正常，不过按键手感不太好，不过几百块的东西，你还能要求些什么呢？
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用品色，1年多，还行，就是快门太轻了，不大习惯。
&&有条件还是买原厂。
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最好采用原厂，我买了品色D800的手柄，最近经常掉电黑屏，取下来手柄就好了。副厂害死人啊。
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请大家谈谈D800手柄都用的什么牌子？原厂的好但也太贵了。副厂品色手柄如何？有品色的，400多进，目前没问题。装上手柄后的D800，再装蔡35，太重，于是只好卸掉，需要加大电力的时候再装吧
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D90的时候用的副厂手柄，3年没出过任何问题。现在D800E用的副厂手柄暂时也没发现问题。
手柄只要不出问题没必要买原厂的，其技术含量很低，还卖那么贵，实在不合理。 本帖最后由 albertyth 于
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买个副厂旅行家镁合金版本,相机本身装电池，手柄不装电池的情况下，手柄一样实现全功能,还好.
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副厂的千万别用，我的导致机身维修。
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玩了7年摄影第一次上手柄，D800嘛你懂的。
试过色友的副厂货，只能说几百块的东西期望别太高。
出差日本赶上日元贬值，秋叶原一个原厂手柄加一块原厂电池2100人刀搞定。
体会有四：
1. 原厂就是原厂，懂的自然懂
2. 竖拍真心好用，尤其是面对70200时
3. 重量增加不多，托举稳定性更好，因为机身我不装电池，只在手柄装，这样重心下移明显。
4. 加了手柄机身宽度大增，呜呜要重新买个更大的包了
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D800手柄我觉得买个副厂凑合着用吧，毕竟原厂新的太贵，二手又没有
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完全代替Wii!模拟器体感手柄设置教程
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Wii模拟器体感设置教程
　　泡泡网显卡频道3月27日 网友们也许还记得上周笔者写过的一篇有关Wii模拟器的文章——《》，文章中教了大家如何用PC设置模拟器配合键盘鼠标运行Wii的游戏。而众所周知，Wii作为任天堂次时代革命性TV游戏主机之所以久居销量宝座，其靠的是它刚发布时独有的体感功能（索尼的PS3、Xbox360在最近也推出了相应的体感设备）。
　　 体感除了能让游戏变得更加真实化，还能使越来越多的玩家能够在享受电玩乐趣的同时还能够得到一些运动锻炼的效果，而笔者这次就要为大家介绍如何用PC连接用游戏主机原配的体感无线手柄玩Wii模拟器游戏，首先我们来看一下准备工作都有哪些吧。
组建Wii模拟器体感平台准备工作
● 所需软件：
1.Dolpin 8.000EX中文版
　　 Dolpin 8.000EX是目前一款运行比较稳定并且兼容性比较强的Wii模拟器，其不仅支持键盘鼠标模拟操作Wii游戏，并且还支持Wiimote体感控制器以及“鸡腿”控制器，也就是我们俗称的“双截棍”手柄，最多可与Wii主机一样支持4个“双截棍”。
2.IVT_BlueSoleil_5.0
　　 由于Wii是采用Bluetooth来进行与体感设备的链接，因此我们还需要一个蓝牙客户端软件，这里我们选用了操作简便的IVT_BlueSoleil_5.0，它是一款收费软件，不过网上已经有了破解版提供下载。
● 所需硬件
1.蓝牙适配器
　　 由于Wii是采用Bluetooth来进行与体感设备的链接，因此我们还需要一个USB接口蓝牙适配器，一般市场上蓝牙适配器最便宜的也就15元左右，虽然质量一般但是性能够用。
2.Wiimote+“鸡腿”手柄（俗称“双截棍手柄”）
　　 由于目前Wii模拟器并没有提供对平衡板的支持，我们这次只提供对双截棍手柄的测试，目前市场上的原装双截棍手柄价格在300元左右，组装手柄售价则在100元左右，玩家可以根据自己的需要选择，不过笔者还是建议大家购买原装手柄，手感与质量相对要好很多。
Wii模拟器测试平台信息
　　 我们这次选用的中端配置的CPU、主板都是600元以上、1300元以下的中端产品。这个价位产品的性价比是相对较高的，同时也是装机市场中比较主流的游戏PC配置，流畅运行Wii模拟器基本够用，不过由于Wii模拟器对显卡的要求比较高，为了保证游戏流畅的运行，我们在这里特别选用了一款2000元级别的显卡。
　　 CPU方面我们选用了 羿龙II X4 955（黑盒），这款4核拥有3.2GHz的高主频与6M的3级缓存，并且其可以调节倍频选项轻松在BIOS内进行超频设置，而且最重要的是这款 4核旗舰级处理器不到千元的价格是使其成为了很多中端用户装机的首选。
　　 主板这边选择了技嘉870A-UD3，其十项供电以及700多元的价格比较实惠。并且此款主板还附带 6Gb/s接口以及USB3.0接口，为以后存储设备的升级做好准备，另外主板的3倍USB充电量功能也比较方便，在关机的状态下依然可以为USB接口的数码产品进行充电。
　　 内存选用了海盗船4GB
1600套装,目前内存的价格已经几乎跌倒谷底，价格十分低廉，这款内存套装的售价360元左右。
R6870 Twin FROZR II/OC规格详解
　　 这次的显卡我们选用了微星R6870 Twin FROZR II/OC，其基于最新40nm的Barts核心而制造，拥有1120个流处理器，支持DX11和新一代的Eyefinity技术、UVD3加速引擎以及AMD全新HD3D技术，支持微星独家开发的Afterburner超频软件。
　　 微星R6870 Twin FROZR II/OC的散热部分相当豪华，其采用了独家的Twin Frozr II散热装置，并且还搭配了五根热导管，与公版设计相比能有效降低温度达19摄氏度，噪音值降低12.8dB，达到了更为理想的散热效果。
　　 微星R6870 Twin FROZR II/OC的PCB属于公版设计，保证了公版产品的稳定性，然后在用料上做了大幅度增强。供电采用了公版的4+1供电规格设计并且整块显卡还全部采用了微星军工级固态电容，这样使得显卡电气性方面十分出色，进而拥有更强大的超频潜力。
　　 显存方面，配备了目前最强的GDDR5显存颗粒，容量高达1GB，该卡核心被默认超频至920MHz/4200MHz超高频率，性能完全超越公版6870显卡。
　　 在输出方面采用了双DVI、Mini DisplayPort和单HDMI的设计，最多可以支持6个的分辨率（需要MST HUB），默认状态下可以支持4屏，实现超大屏幕的环幕技。
Wii模拟器体感链接设置
　　 安装完模拟器以及蓝牙客户端程序之后，我们先把蓝牙适配器安装在PC的USB接口上，然后打开手柄的电池后盖。
点击Wii手柄的红色的蓝牙感应开关——“SYNC”按键
此时Wii的蓝牙指示灯有一个比较长时间的闪烁
　　 打开蓝牙客户端程序，双击“Search Devics”，我们随后可以看到客户端搜索出了Wii手柄，双击手柄图标。
此时链接成功后，手柄图标会由蓝色变成绿色
　　 打开Dolpin 8.000EX模拟器的“感应”选项，在“来源”下拉菜单选项中选择“体感”，然后点击“刷新”选项，此时手柄会震动一下。
　　 到此我们的手柄终于设置成功，此时蓝牙指示灯也不再闪烁，而是在1号手柄的位置灯上持续亮着，如果大家有多个手柄，可以在“感应”设置中选择相应的Wiimote2、3、4项目依法炮制。接下来我们来看看实际操作感受如何。
试玩体感游戏——Wii Sports
　　 我们选用了Wii经典游戏——Wii Sports，这款游戏充分地利用了Wii手柄的体感功能，玩家可以使用Wii体感手柄进行网球、棒球、保龄球以及拳击等运动，是一款十分畅销的体感游戏佳作。
我们先进入网球游戏部分
　　 蓝牙USB接口虽然没有像Wii感应接收器一样放在显示器的上方，但依然不影响网球游戏中的操作，依然可以准确地感应笔者的动作。
我们再来看一下拳击游戏的表现，这款游戏要用到鸡腿手柄
　　 与网球游戏一样，笔者在拳击游戏中丝毫没有感觉出与用Wii主机玩时的区别，整个游戏运行、操作感受可以用“完美”二字来形容。
　　 看到这里，想必大家已经对如何用Wii手柄玩模拟器有了一个清楚的认识了，手头上有高配置PC的玩家只需弄来Wii手柄与蓝牙适配器，就可以轻松在电脑上充分享受Wii体感游戏的乐趣。而没有高配电脑却想要购买Wii的玩家此时是不是有股想升级PC或装机的冲动呢？■
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- Fix crash from NPC messenger
- Fix crash with missing asteroid physics
- Fix an audio crash near planetary ports or when deploying SRV's
- Fix an error when resurrecting a dead commander with an alive vehicle
- Don't overwrite the plotted route in the galaxy map if opening the system map
- Fix an issue where the planned route could be wiped after a hyperjump
- Fix module buyback not correctly preserving full details of the module being restored
- Stop disconnecting players with a transaction server error when failing to eject cargo
- Ship spins very fast after launch and is destroyed fixed
- Make POI's that were supposed to be visible from the ship be visible
- Cargo racks at POI's do not spawn loot
- Add planetary checks to &don't die& missions
- Add missing timers for off base planetary missions
- Extract mission destinations for mission external panel entries so mission icon shows up on galaxy map
- Off set Wing members drop outs to avoid collisions
- Apply cargo transfer to cached ship state so it won't forget our cargo changes when we dismiss/recall our ship
- Fixed stolen flag being sent incorrectly in cargo transfer and boarding
- Fix for incorrect landing volumes on Diamondback Scout
- Fixed some missing paint job references
- Don't set the near planet flag on saves for platforms that don't support Horizons
- Don't generate rocks when in a glide
- Fix for floating rocks after switching vehicle types
- Select correct GPU if an nVidia Optimus is installed
- Minor surface shader optimization
- Balance tweak for GPU timings on min spec AMD cards
- Changed the way we find the gpu version to match the way we select the graphics adapter. We now the first non-Intel card instead of the last card
- Unable to accept CQC squad invite with mouse, can only use controller to select it
- Added the user's time played to the Commander statistics screen
- Fix missing black paint job for Viper MkIV
- Various text fixes
- Latest translation batch added
15 December, 2015
Hi Commanders,
Here are the final patch notes for the Horizons and 1.5 (Ships) updates.
Remember, you can get ready for the update by making sure you have downloaded the latest version of the launcher from here. The servers are currently down and we are expecting them to be up between 4pm - 6pm GMT. However, we will keep you updated on this thread.
Below is a snippet of the change log as seen from our forums here:
New additions
- Fix crash in kinematics
- Fix audio emitter error
- Speculative fix for crash on shut down
- Fix crash creating a new player ship during death
- Fix crash caused by pressing the back button when trying to bind to an axis
- Don't crash when a prospector limpet collides with a planet surface (or any other physics object without user data)
- Make sure that the reverse mode is triggered if enter neutral/reverse if our velocity is negative
- Fix hand-ins for planetary missions
- Remove certain unused stations from planetary and pad size checks
- Fix issue with receiving no credits when selling cargo
- Fix planets shining through some materials
- Make sure re-supply all button adds the SRV
- Fix for Typos in commodity news
- Fixed spelling of minerals in mining data for class 3 planets
- When we leave a proving ground make sure to clear the flag to ignore the location safety checks. This should prevent someone from logging on in the middle of a star causing weird graphical glitches
- Don't close a players recalled ship hatch when other ships launch from star ports
1.5 Beta, 1.5 Beta 1
NEW CONTENT/FEATURES (1.5)
- Added Asp Scout
- Added Viper MkIV
- Added Federal Corvette
- Added Imperial Cutter
- Added Keelback
- PC/Mac: Added Bobbleheads!!!
- Added Imperial Fighter to CQC
- Added new missions
- Don't die missions
- Don't get scanned missions
- Multi-stage missions
- Missions can be received in space
- Assassination variants
- Contact missions
- Unique cargo missions - you have to deliver what you are given
- Timed window missions
- Added new open space scenarios:
- Search and rescue scenarios
- Wrecked ships scenarios
- New deep space salvage scenarios
- Distress call scenarios
- Alliance vip escort
- PC/Mac: Updated French, German and Russian translations
- Added more player group sponsored minor faction descriptions
- Master Chefs rare good added
- Renamed various planets
- Local emergency rescue NPCs added
- Spanish localisation added - a big shout out for the Spanish community for their hard effort on this!
STABILITY FIXES
- Xbox One - Show gamertag for Xbox One players who have 'discovered by' tags
- Swap the order that some conditionals are checked in to fix an error that can happen when searching certain systems names
- Added sanity check when selling commodities
- Don't crash when we try to eject all cargo and we either: have no cargo hatch, or the cargo hatch is shutting down
- Fix crash trying to xtract the cargo canister's root physics skeleton before it is loaded
- Fix an error than can happen when your squad leader is joining and leaving matchmaking in rapid succession
- Xbox One: Fix some errors suspending and resuming a CQC match
- Make sure that th stellar manager on the server shuts down correctly
- Fix potential crash when spawning NPCs
- Fix crashes reported for missing D3D buffers
- Fix crash caused in Alliance space where the music track was given the wrong action name
- Stellar system evolution shouldn't create negative mass
- Fixed a softlock that can happen if a player joins a CQC game while it is in the game initialisation state
- Avoid softlock loading into CQC if the ship object isn't ready yet
- Made CQC handle the player being logged out while playing
- Fix crash when using multiple mining lasers
- Fixed a memory leak in audio occlusion
- Fix memory leak on ship destruction
“Capable of delivering some of the best stories about spaceships you've ever taken part in”
86% –
“Satisfying handling that sets a new standard for any cockpit-based genre.”
8/10 – Edge Magazine
“Shining Bright Like a Supernova”
95% –
About This Game
Elite: Dangerous is the definitive massively multiplayer space epic, bringing gaming’s original open world adventure to the modern generation with a connected galaxy, evolving narrative and the entirety of the Milky Way re-created at its full galactic proportions.
Starting with only a small starship and a few credits, players do whatever it takes to earn the skill, knowledge, wealth and power to survive in a futuristic cutthroat galaxy and to stand among the ranks of the iconic Elite. In an age of galactic superpowers and interstellar war, every player’s story influences the unique connected gaming experience and handcrafted evolving narrative. Governments fall, battles are lost and won, and humanity’s frontier is reshaped, all by players’ actions.
400 Billion Star Systems. Infinite Freedom. Blaze Your Own Trail.
A Galaxy Of Wonders
The 400 billion star systems of the Milky Way are the stage for Elite: Dangerous' open-ended gameplay. The real stars, planets, moons, asteroid fields and black holes of our own galaxy are built to their true epic proportions in the largest designed playspace in videogame history.
A Unique Connected Game Experience
Governments fall, battles are lost and won, and humanity’s frontier is reshaped, all by players’ actions. In an age of galactic superpowers and interstellar war, every player’s personal story influences the connected galaxy and handcrafted evolving narrative.
Blaze Your Own Trail
Upgrade your ship and customize every component as you hunt, explore, fight, mine, smuggle, trade and survive in the cutthroat galaxy of the year 3301. Do whatever it takes to earn the skill, knowledge, wealth and power to stand among the ranks of the Elite.
Massively Multiplayer
Experience unpredictable encounters with players from around the world in Elite: Dangerous’ vast massively multiplayer space. Experience the connected galaxy alone in Solo mode or with players across the world in Open Play, where every pilot you face could become a trusted ally or your deadliest enemy. You will need to register a free Elite: Dangerous account with Frontier to play the game.
A Living Game
Elite: Dangerous grows and expands with new features and content. Major updates react to the way players want to play and create new gameplay opportunities for the hundreds of thousands of players cooperating, competing and exploring together in the connected galaxy.
The Original Open World Adventure
Elite: Dangerous is the third sequel to 1984's genre-defining Elite, bringing gaming’s original open world adventure into the modern generation with a connected galaxy, evolving narrative and the entire Milky Way re-created at its full galactic proportions.
System Requirements
Minimum:
OS: Windows 7, Windows 8
Processor: Quad Core CPU (4 x 2Ghz)
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Graphics: Nvidia GTX 260 / ATI 4870HD
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 7 GB available space
Recommended:
OS: Windows 7, Windows 8
Processor: Intel Core i7-3770K Quad Core CPU or better / AMD FX 4350 Quad Core CPU or better
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: Nvidia GTX 770 / AMD Radeon R9 280X
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 7 GB available space
Additional Notes: Supports Oculus Rift and TrackIR
Minimum:
OS: OS X Yosemite (version 10.10.3)
Processor: 2.3Ghz quad-core Intel Core i5 CPU
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Graphics: Nvidia GT 650M 1GB (or equivalent)
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 8 GB available space
Recommended:
OS: OS X Yosemite (version 10.10.3)
Processor: 3.4GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 CPU
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: Nvidia GeForce GTX 775M (2GB video memory) / AMD Radeon R9 M290X (2GB video memory)
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 8 GB available space
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At the time of writing this I have 121 hours. So time to add my opinion of this game for what its worth.I originally went into Elite on the viewpoint that despite what the 400+ hour people said it must have kept them at least entertained for 400 hours for that opinion. Nothing really could be farther from the truth anything further than 100 hours and you will find that sitting in the park watching the ducks is far more entertaining.True the game starts of really promising it gives you a lot of eyecandy (that hud is just beautiful in the extremes), some missions at the base go earn some credits your way approach. And at the start this goes all very nicely. Within a few hours you have probably dotted your way up a few ships. Then the game halts very abruptly.For once you are in the midgame. The amount of credits needed to go up to the next level of combat ship or trader ship (I will attack explorer in a bit) is so much that you have to pretty much do rinse and repeat for what seems like an eternity to get anywhere else new. There are many people including myself who have done trade routes while watching a movie or something if that is a necessity then the game has failed to be engaging on that premise alone. Combat provides entertainment for a few minutes or so then the game just feels like any $5 arcade shooter space game. On to exploration I kept this one separate because as soon as you get an Asp (mid-game)
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&Oh... my... God. Is it really you? Commander Zigglepants?&&Yeah. Heh. Nice to meet a fan.&&I can't believe it. I've always wanted to be a space pilot like you. You've done EVERYTHING. How did you get started?&&Well, believe it or not my first job was doing delivery runs.&&Really? That must have been tedius.&&It was. And the pay was terrible. You'd accept a mission in one star system and do nothing but hop from star system to star system for an hour or more before accepting your tiny payment.&Sounds pretty bad.&&Yeah. I only did that for a short time before I got into smuggling.&&Oh, cool. Sneaking into heavily armed facilities with illegal cargo? That sort of thing?&&Exactly. Although you only do the sneaking at the end bit of your journey. The rest of it was just as dull as the deliveries. And even the sneaking was only fun the first few times. After that it became pretty routine. The pay was a lot better, though.&&So how did you become a famous bounty hunter?&&I'm afriad the stories are exaggerated. I took my first contract at my local station. It told me to fly to a nearby star and hunt down a notorious pirate.&&Did you get him?&&No. I showed up at the star and he wasn't there. I flew around scanning promising signals, but each one turned out to be a dud. To make it worse, it took about 10 minutes to fly between each signal and there wasn't much to do in the meantime. After a few hours of this, the contract expired.&&That's too bad.&&Yeah, the next few contracts turned out the same so at that point I gave up, bought a warrant scanner, and decided to go freelance.&&What does that mean?&&Well, it means you sit in one place next to a navigation beacon or resource extraction point, and hope to catch pirates if they show up.&&Neat. How many did you catch?&&None. It took me about an hour to pick up the scanner and fly to a promising system. Then I waited around for a few hours scanning ships but no pirates showed up. Well, a couple did... but none of them came out of supercruise. After a few nights of this, I decided to dump the stupid scanner into the sun. When I got home, I received a strange message. Someone wanted to hire me to carry some mystery cargo to a certain sector and wait for further instructions.&&Did you take the job?&&Of course! It seemed like the first interesting thing that had happened to me as a space commander. Yeah, I accepted the job and headed out to the sector they named. Took a lot of time to get there. Then I started waiting for my contact.&&Who was it?&&I dunno. He never showed. I waited around for a couple hours and eventually the mission expired. I did get to fight some pirates, ironically. It seems like they really wanted that cargo, whatever it was. They should have just asked. After waiting around for a few hours, I tossed it into the sun too. Hold on, I have a customer.&Commander Zigglepants turns away and talks into his headset.&Hello, welcome to McSpaceport. Can I take your order? Combo #2? That will be 4,000 credits. First window, please.& He turns back. &Sorry about that.&&No problem. So you work a drive-through window now?&&This is WAY more fun. Trust me.&&You know what, I still think I want to be a space commander.&&Suit yourself... but can I offer a word of advice?&&Please!&&You're going to spend most of your time travelling and waiting around, so bring a video game to keep yourself entertained.&&Got it.&&...and make sure it's NOT Elite: Dangerous.&
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1.5 hrs on record
For the first time in months, I felt something playing this game. Mostly shame, self-loathing and guilt. But at least that's something. I went psycho. Here's why.I backed this game at Premium Beta (only got the Steam key today to leave this review). I spent the first six months of ED grinding my way up as a trader/courier. When I finally got into a Type 6, I had nearly lost my mind. Trading consists of looking at spreadsheets and then spending 95% of your time lining up dots with crosshairs. Once in a blue moon, you're interdicted and can almost instantly escape.But during that time, they introduced the Vulture and I failed to notice. So about a month ago I suddenly realised I could have had the best fighter in the game for some time. Picked one up and kitted it out to B/C grade. Went to a combat zone. Earned more in a week (maybe 8 hours of play) than I did in the previous eight months, tripling my net assets in that time.The CZs and RESs are fun for a few hours. 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I tried exploring - seriously, I would rather play solitaire than waste my life on that nonsense. I've done many months of trading and it's just grind to me now. I've done every mission type. Everything is just grind. Half of the grind is naked, exposed to view: the other half is barely hidden under a tissue of metagaming. Kill ten rats. Tell Bob I love him. I need a fish, go and buy one for me in the shop down the road. Go to another place and then come back and tell me you've been there. Rinse and repeat like a laundromat staffed by zombies.So I went psycho, in a final attempt to experience any kind of emotion at all.I went to Eravate, noob town. My mission was to kill as many other players as possible. I racked up about 200k of bounty in about four hours of play, all from deaths and attacks. And it was so easy. I literally laughed out loud at how easy it was.For the first half, I &advertised& my presence in the system as a &psycho&. 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Net loss to others: potentially hours of play wiped out on a stranger's whim, multiplied by at least thirty, in just a couple of casual sessions. Lasting reputation effect: zero.The system, in the heart of some cardboard cut-out Power's space, did almost nothing to stop me. About once every 20 minutes I'd be interdicted by system security. Usually it was a single Eagle or Viper. Hilariously, it was once a single Harmless unshielded Eagle. That's right folks: the most advanced civilisation in the galaxy, with a population of trillions, is sending completely inexperienced lone rookies to intercept an Expert criminal tooling about in the most powerful fighter in the game right in the heart of their territory where people who bought the game yesterday are spawned. Police interdiction is as much of a barrier to griefing as a damp cardboard box.Eravate also provides ample facilities for psychopaths, despite its location in the heart of civilisation. 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